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Previous Ford Territory owner. Picked up the Kluger Grande Dec 09 - small pluses and minuses with each vehicle but, overall, like them both. Problem Kluger Sat Nav - I set addresses for an interstate trip; all travel on main (sealed) highways - most country towns by-passed. Travel time shown on Sat Nav read out was almost double the actual time required whenever the trip included travel on highways - didn't matter which of the 3 route options I selected. Went into Sat Nav 'set up', enabled travel on all roads (except 'seasonal access') and adjusted the 'Freeway' setting higher & lower which had minimal or no influence on travel time calculation. However, when I adjusted the 'City' setting it did change the travel time calculation. Conclusion: - Sat Nav was using the 'City' speed setting on highways along the route to calculate travel time.

Either the map disc has the wrong speed / speed-code on highways, the Sat Nav unit can't read highway speeds / speed/codes on the maps or there is a malfunction in the calculation formula. The Toyota sales staff found the same problem in other Klugers on the showroom floor and the Toyota Service Manager found the same condition in his 3 y o Kluger.

Fujitsu (who make the Sat Nav) say it is a mapping problem. Toyota are supposedly looking into it but three months have passed without any helpful response.

Anyone else have this problem? Any other suggestions? Given the Kluger speedo under reads by 9kmh at 100kmh and the system uses both mechanical speed and GPS speed for calculations, adjsting the three settings can compensate a little for this. Hard to do nowadays in city areas, but to setup correctly you would ideally need 10kms of road with no stop lights or signs and setup/adjust that way if you wanted everything perfect for each type of road. I have mine as good as it will get and is pretty close to my Garmin unit. Mod Dbz Goku Kaioken Kamehameha 20x By O.

I have usually found most GPS units start with a higher estimated time to travel and gradually decreases further into the trip. Mine is an 08 Grande with v15 Whereis Edited April 19, 2010 by Freewuns. I have adjusted the 'three settings'. Quickstep3 Cnc Software. The first two affect the Sat Nav est travel time but the third (highway/freeway) setting does nothing even when 90% + of the journey is on 100kph sealed roads. Once under way, the Sat Nav does use the 'mechanical speed' to adjust the est travel time however it is not a single all-at-once adjustment to the total est travel time - the adjustment is 'continuous' i.e. After 10 minutes of actual on-road (highway) travel, est travel time has reduced by approx 18 mins. So, on a 10 hour highway trip (real time), sat nav indicates around 18 hours at the outset, about 9 hours at the halfway point and about 1 3/4 hours when 1 hour from destination.

As you point out, if I adjust the second (city streets) setting to the max, then sat nav gets closer to the mark on country trips - but any city travel (say, in an interstate capital where I would like to have an idea of the cross town travel time) is completely wrong. Why do we need to compromise functions to create a more realistic answer? It just seems the sat nav does not 'read' the speed limit / code on highways in order to use the third setting in travel time calculations. My disc is v16. I also have a Garmin unit with no manual speed adjustments available to the user however the trip travel time calculations are amazingly accurate - country and city driving.

I would really like to hear that someone has a Kluger sat nav that actually works as per the manual - that is, adjust the 'three settings' to standard speeds for side streets, city driving and freeway speeds and the est travel time for across town or a country run are calculated using the correct setting speed on the appropriate sections of the designated route. No compensating. I tried out the Satnav over the Anzac day weekend, driving from Sydney to Ulladulla and back. I took a portable TomTom for comparison, and boy, did it drive the family mad! Two sets of voices, telling us when and where to turn. Usually, the Kluger GPS voice came on first, followed by the Tom Tom, making it sound like an echo.

On the Princes Highway, the Kluger GPS did not use the highway speed, and kept interpreting it as a city road (avg speed of 50kmph) and over-estimated the travel time. On the way back, however, I came back through Moss Vale and got on to the Hume Highway. On the Hume Highway, it interpreted it as a highway (avg speed of 90 kmph), and was much more accurate on the timings. BTW, I have a Gen 1 (2006) Kluger Grande, using Sensis map v15.